Comments on: Trick to Kill a Raid Boss Easily Without Wipes

By: Jayisanoob

Jayisanoob — Thu, 04 Mar 2010 17:35:37 +0000

lol jay got pwned hard. LOLOLOLOL that is directed at you

By: Noname

Noname — Thu, 14 Jan 2010 17:48:59 +0000

The sucking up in this thread is awful

By: Lowgearscore

Lowgearscore — Tue, 05 Jan 2010 02:33:38 +0000

How in the world is this even a tip? I mean clearly if you need more than 10 people to clear a raid boss then you don’t need to be doing said raid. I mean ffs, this is awful. To Jay, it is against blizzard’s TOS because you can’t manipulate the gameplay to allow more than 1 soulstone to be in a raid group at any given time, period. What is hard to understand about that? Drues if you are still reading this thread you are awesome and I’ve watched lots of your disc priest vids and they are outstanding. I’m not sure that you can do this trick anymore with the latest patches out anyways.

By: Silencer, Death's Demise

Silencer, Death's Demise — Mon, 04 Jan 2010 21:26:14 +0000

Quick recap for all to think about in this thread:
You guys are noobs, clearly. All of you.
Gladiator Drues is EXACTLY right, end of story. He pwned all of you like he does to his victims in arena.
Admin: got pwned by his own words, as no one was angry.
heyerdahl you’re a noob, stop trying. You don’t deserve any more of my space on here.
Akaora, right on.
Jay, please learn basic thought input and output, and learning comprehension and basic common sense.

That is all.

By: iqof183

iqof183 — Fri, 01 Jan 2010 21:25:55 +0000

Jay I’m pretty sure what cediztrah means is that if a 5 man dungeon or any raid takes more than the core party to complete, that violates gameplay. Now I don’t know what you don’t understand about that unless you can do basic math.

By: jay

jay — Thu, 03 Sep 2009 00:39:07 +0000

not sure how this violates rules of manipulating gameplay, but there seems to be an inherent error to this strategy; the last time I checked, if a warlock Soulstones someone and logs out, the Soulstone effect disappears.
I’m told it wasn’t always this way but was changed to this in a patch by Blizzard to axe Warlocks selling Soulstones for gold.

By: Cediztrah

Cediztrah — Mon, 23 Mar 2009 20:25:10 +0000

Wow worst strat ever. Learn to play. Pretty sure this is against Blizzard’s TOS of rule violations on manipulating gameplay.

By: Akaora

Akaora — Sat, 21 Feb 2009 03:24:36 +0000

To justify why this is a bad idea… In a 25 man raid, if a caster is out of mana and low on health then they are useless to the raid, more than that they are, more often than not, better off dead. If the raid wipes, there’s a reason why it wiped. Bad timing maybe, an undergeared group, sheer lack of competence, or maybe you’re just learning the boss. As a resto shammy I often use the technique of once I’m completely oom, I deliberately die and self res, the fills my health and mana pool back to about 6k out of 20k, resets my mana pot cooldown and I’m back in the fight, this is only used in majorly mana consuming fights where shammies lack the mana regeneration of other healing classes. But a level 20 SS will nly give you mabe 200 health and 200 mana. If you’re oom and low on health then you’re not putting out any damage, or not doing any healing and you’re constantly having to be topped up with health. If you’ve got a decent party then you’ll have a couple of SS’s floating round anyway, a few ankhs and some combat resses, that’s more than enough. First time we downed Malygos25 we had about 10 people down in phase 2 because of a bug where you still get hit for 28k when inside the anti magic shields, because of the group we had we still managed to have 23/25 alive by phase 3.

It’s all about knowing your class, learning the boss your fighting and trusting your raid group. Read up on the bosses before you fight them, learn what abilities they have and know how much you’re gonna get hit for. Watch the stategy videos on Tankspot and more than anything don’t go into the fight thinking you’ll down it first time every time. Even at L80 there is still a rather steep learning curve to some of the raids.

SS the healers if needs be and SS the OT if you have them spare. The MT doesn’t need one as if they go down you’ve done something wrong and it’s better to start again anyway. It’ll be hard for them to build up the threat required to hold it still while you’ve got hunters putting out 13k threat per second on the damn thing. If your MT does go down the stop dps immediately and wait for the tank to regain a decent hold on the threat. Then nuke. If it’s a DPS race like VoA or Patchwerk then wipe and start again unless you feel confident in your healers to heal through the enrage.

Remember in a long raid such as Naxx you’re gonna pick up about 200g each in lootmoney and extra in vendortrash and auctionbait so you can afford a few wipes on bosses the group hasn’t got to grips with. Every wipe tells you something more about how to defeat the boss and even the best guilds have to go through the same process of wiping and reseting to learn the bosses.

By: Windreaver

Windreaver — Fri, 20 Feb 2009 21:19:57 +0000

Using a SS on a dps or healer that is occasionally taken out early in the fight is a better use of a SS than ressing the raid after a wipe. This tip is an extension of that idea, and for that, is a very interesting and good idea.

Now if you need to SS the entire raid to clear a boss, then maybe you aren’t ready for them yet, but that doesn’t diminish the quality of the tip.

By: Akaora

Akaora — Thu, 19 Feb 2009 21:28:02 +0000

Why is it, when people fail to find anything else to comment on, they always stoop to the level of correcting grammar and spelling in other people’s comments. I’m a victim of such crimes myself, I fail to understand America’s obbsession with the letter Z. That aside, if the only thing about my post you are at all at odds with is a minor spelling mistake her and there on a board you cannot edit messages then I will continue to take your comment as a compliment.